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WmClark	New to the World of Milsurp	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 (05/01/09 16:39:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None This forum came up as a search result during my k98 Mauser research, and it looks like there are many knowledgable contributers here. I have always found great fascination in world history and am an IDPA competition shooter. Learning about and collecting the firearms that shaped history seems to be the perfect union of my two strongest interests. I have come across a Russian captured k98 Mauser that looks to be in good condition. The rifle has 90% bluing, a nicely worn stock, and a good barrel. I bought some Sellier & Bellot 7.92x57 cartridges and plan to shoot it in a month or so after I finish cleaning and inspecting everything. I believe it was made at the Steyr Daimler Puch factory (Steyr, Austria) in 1940. The matching serial numbers on the stock and receiver are consistent with the date and location of manufacture. I am really excited about getting into milsurp. I can just imagine the rifle being made, perhaps as the Germans enter Paris, or possibly as the Battle of Britain raged on. Perhaps it was captured in the fall of '42 during Stalingrad - who knows. If only this gun could talk... I just wanted to introduce myself before I started barging my way into other threads.
Burt		#1	[-]
Posts: 2066 (05/02/09 05:11:58) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Welcome to the site and to milsurps...enjoy all you can.
armyrat1970		#2	[-]
Posts: 1493 (05/02/09 23:52:18) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Welcome to the forum. Ask away with any questions. I am sure someone here can give an answer. What is stamped on top of the receiver? If it is as you believe it should be stamped with either 660 above 1940 or bnz. above 40 How is your stock serial number stamped on the stock? Is it in the barrel channel or the outside of the stock around the buttplate? "If a man has nothing greater to believe in than himself, he is a very lonely man".
WmClark		#3	[-]
Posts: 2 (05/03/09 04:55:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes, it is stamped bnz above the number 40. The stock serial number is stamped near the butplate, but why did they stamp the stock in different places? Those crazy Germans put serial numbers on everything! Last Edited By: WmClark 05/03/09 04:59:47. Edited 2 times.
kidmma		#4	[-]
Posts: 6 (05/08/09 04:15:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ah, yes! If they could talk! Sometimes they can if you examine them closely. It may be a gouge in the stock or a spot still holding shrapnel. The Russian markings on an early dated, well finnished K-98 say a lot. How long was it carried by the German soldier? When was it lost? Scott
armyrat1970		#5	[-]
Posts: 1503 (05/10/09 01:28:35) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	WmClark wrote: Yes, it is stamped bnz above the number 40. The stock serial number is stamped near the butplate, but why did they stamp the stock in different places? Those crazy Germans put serial numbers on everything! It was produced at the factory you state. 1940 saw a change in the Germans manufacturing coding system. Early models from that factory and of that year carried the 660 code. Later models were switched to the bnz. code. The stock being serial numbered on the outside and near the buttplate means it is not matching to the weapon as I believe they were all stamped in the barrel channel. Probably stamped that way for import to try and match the receiver and stock. Check to see if you have any other markings in the barrel channel. Others may add more info if I am wrong. The WaA stamps should be 623 on the other parts. Should have a "H" configured upper band and milled lower. Depending on the serial number (which should be 3 digit with a letter) it could or should have a sight hood. "If a man has nothing greater to believe in than himself, he is a very lonely man".
Sarge13		#6	[-]
Posts: 138 (05/11/09 00:04:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	How about some photos? If the stock is nr'd on the left side that is a force matched by the ruskies. The original nr should be between the pistol grip and the butt plate on the underside. Ser nrs will run from a single diget to 4 digets and no letter to any letter in the alphabet - always under the nr for Steyr. What letter is yours? Your front sight should Not have the slots for a sight hood if original. That item was not introduced untill 1941. Depending on the letter in your ser nr the rifle may have had a cupped butt plate. Steyr began using those late in 1940. Calling illegal aliens undocumented immigrants is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacists!
armyrat1970		#7	[-]
Posts: 1505 (05/12/09 00:31:52) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Sarge13 wrote: Your front sight should Not have the slots for a sight hood if original. That item was not introduced untill 1941. I guess maybe another flaw in Law's book as he states that the bnz./40 weapons in the SN range of "K" and above should have sight hoods. And either the 660/1940 or bnz./40 coded weapons should all have cupped buttplates with laminated stocks. "If a man has nothing greater to believe in than himself, he is a very lonely man".
Sarge13		#8	[-]
Posts: 140 (05/12/09 20:48:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well the argument is moot because he has not said what the ser nr or letter is so how do you know who is right? I want to see a photo of the markings. The bnz 40 in laws book is a Pfake! It is a 0 stamped over a 1. There has, so far, never been an original bnz 40 doccumented. I have been looking for one for 45 yrs and have never seen or heard of one for sale. There are 2 or 3 Pfakes known. Cupped butt plates did not come into general use at the beginning of 1940 so Not all 660s will have them. Thus, Yes another flaw in law! Calling illegal aliens undocumented immigrants is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacists!

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